Air Force pushing conversion to jet fuel of liquefied coal

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Air Force pushing conversion to jet fuel of liquefied coal

Postby SunWizard » Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:45 am

A good article about the Air Force pushing conversion to jet fuel of liquefied coal, and building a large plant for it in MT:
http://news.tradingcharts.com/futures/5/8/106769085.html

This would work in diesels as well, I think we will be hearing a lot more about this technology since the US is the Saudia Arabia of coal with 27% of the worlds reserves.
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Postby John Galt » Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:30 pm

Diesel from coal is the fuel of the future. The Fischer-Tropsch process was developed by the Germans in the late 30s, and has been used by the South Africans for a number of years. In terms of cost it's competitive with heavy oil, oil sand and growing oilseed crops.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer-Tropsch_synthesis
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Postby BMW Fan » Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:08 pm

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Postby mixelpix » Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:10 pm

SunWizard,

iirc the entire U.S. military is phasing out gasoline and sticking to diesel and jet fuels. From a military logicians pov, gasoline presents too great a liability in the age of rocket propelled improvised exploding devices.


John Galt wrote:Diesel from coal is the fuel of the future. The Fischer-Tropsch process was developed by the Germans in the late 30s, and has been used by the South Africans for a number of years. In terms of cost it's competitive with heavy oil, oil sand and growing oilseed crops.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer-Tropsch_synthesis


Funny, both those countries also have rapeseed oils available at their conventional diesel pumps.

John might have meant this included with "oilseed crops" but one good thing is that synthetic diesel can be harvested from biomass and the R&D has been underway for some time. Likely, you won't see the results of that R&D until they hit the ASTM markets. Currently the U.S. produces like a million gallons a year of the stuff and Europe a lot more. If your diesel station sells a "premium" diesel blend, synth diesel is likely a constituent (Chevron or Shell at least)

Either way the EROEI on the Fischer-Tropsch process is negative, currently. This is, however, a liquid fuel alternative which is compatable with the current piping infrastructures and the resulting product is non-toxic. Course, I wouldn't want to drink a liter of synth GTL diesel!

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