Charles Pure Soul, the Sun Wizard onboard WVO refinery

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Charles Pure Soul, the Sun Wizard onboard WVO refinery

Postby Loxley » Mon May 30, 2016 6:21 pm

Charles Pure Soul, the Sun Wizard (CPSSW) onboard WVO refinery

GOALS:

Onboard WVO refinery that completely dewaters & filters WVO down to 1µ in a standard size pickup truck bed.
Solar powered, entirely 12VDC (no inverters); panels also serve as a roof for light weather protection for exposed refinery components.

SIMPLE TWO-TANK FILTER+SETTLE+FUGE+BAG:
SUCTION FILTER: 3"x7" 600µ Suction/Pump Filter with 1" fitting 600µ for screening out largest debris
[mounted to clear suction hose]
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SUCTION HOSE: clear for WVO to monitor flow & quality control inspection
[mounted to fuel filter water separator]
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FUEL FILTER WATER SEPARATOR: with 30µ element to pre-fitler & trap some H2O [mounted in pickup's bed or to dirty tank?]
SILICONE HEATER 12VDC [wrapped around filter housing for increased dirty WVO flow]
SWITCH on/off 12VDC silicone heater on fuel filter water separator [mounted in pickup's bed]
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SIGHT TUBE: clear tube to monitor 30µ-filtered WVO flow & quality control inspection [mounted between fuel filter water separator & pump]
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PUMP: 12VDC suction pump for transferring dirty WVO to dirty tank [mounted on pickup's bed or dirty tank?]
SWITCH on/off 12VDC suction pump [mounted on bed]
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GAUGE: pressure gauge for monitoring life of 30µ element [mounted?]
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DIRTY TANK: black aluminum (attracts passive solar heat & weight savings) dirty tank holds 30µ filtered WVO. Tank size? [mounted parallel up against clean tank]
SUMP: Heat & settle dirty WVO for 2 weeks [attached to bottom tailgate side of dirty tank], then >
VALVE: oil drain valve. Open, dump, then inspect H2O & dirty WVO from drainage sump [mounted at the lowest point of drainage sump on tailgate side]
VENT: passive breather vent with check valve for filling tank & possibly permits flash evaporation during centrifuge stage (mushroom shape/dishwasher vent to avoid rain?) [mounted on top of dirty tank]
GAUGE: monitor WVO level in dirty tank [mounted in cab?]
BUZZER GAUGE: fuel level sender gauge with buzzer for audible overfill warning [mounted inside dirty tank, 1" from the top]
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STAGE TWO: CENTRIFUGE & SECOND SETTLE
HEATER: 12VDC stainless steel hot water heater element in black stainless steel pipe heats dirty WVO for transfer to centrifuge [mounted inside dirty tank 3" above top of sump, tailgate side] (add multiple 12VDC hot water heaters to get WVO temperature up high enough for OC-20 operating temperature / flash evaporation?).
SWITCH on/off hot water heater mounted inside dirty tank [mounted in cab?]
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PUMP: 12v gear pump carbonator style powers centrifuge [mounted on tailgate side of dirty tank]
SWITCH on/off 12VDC gear pump [mounted in cab?]
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GAUGE: monitor pressure going to centrifuge [mounted on pump]
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HEATER: 12VDC stainless steel hot water heater element in black stainless steel insulated pipe further heats dirty WVO for centrifuge's effective operating temperature & possibly flash evaporation [mounted just before centrifuge]
SWITCH on/off hot water heater for centrifuge [mounted in cab?]
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CENTRIFUGE: OC-20 dewaters WVO, 'fuges & recirculates into dirty tank for several (how many?) 30 minute cycles so as not to overheat 12VDC pump. [mounted on tailgate side dirty tank] (or two OC-20s/OC-50s with two pumps to relieve stress on a single 12VDC pump?)
GAUGE monitor centrifuge pressure [mounted in cab?]
PRESSURE RELIEF VALVE FITTING: in plumbing, external to pump
How would one plumb, drain & vent this section?
P-trap underneath? A “P-trap” is useful in the clean oil output line to prevent large amounts of vapor from condensing in the clean oil line or flowing into the clean oil tank.

Post-centrifuge 3-way valve [mounted to centrifuge] transfer to >

SIGHT TUBE: to monitor centrifuged WVO flow & quality control inspection [mounted after 3-way valve before centrifuge tank]
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STAGE THREE: DEWATER & FILTER TO ONE MICRON
HEATER: 12VDC stainless steel hot water heater element in black stainless steel pipe heats centrifuged WVO for transfer to fuel filter water separator [mounted inside centrifuge tank on front (driver's?) side at bottom of the tank, but above top of sump level]
SWITCH on/off hot water heater mounted in centrifuge tank [mounted in cab?]
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PUMP: 12VDC for transferring centrifuged WVO to 1µ bag filter housing [mounted to front of centrifuge tank on (driver's?) side]
SWITCH on/off 12VDC pump [mounted in cab?]
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GAUGE: pressure gauge for monitoring life of filter element & bag filter [mounted on bag filter housing] to >

HEATER: 12VDC stainless steel hot water heater element in black stainless steel insulated pipe to increase WVO flow to bag filter housing [mounted as close as possible to bag filter housing] to >
SWITCH on/off hot water heater mounted just before bag filter housing [mounted in cab?]

BAG FILTER HOUSING: with 1µ bag filter in lightweight aluminum housing for final polishing of WVO [mounted on top of clean tank directly over fuel fill port]
SILICONE HEATER 12VDC for bag filter housing for increased WVO flow through finest filter [wrapped around bag filter housing]? (or just have it touching the smokestack exhaust pipe)
SWITCH on/off 12VDC silicone heater wrapped around bag filter housing [mounted in cab?]?
SIGHT TUBE: clear tube underneath housing to monitor centrifuged 1µ-filtered WVO flow & quality control inspection [mounted between bag filter housing & fuel fill port]

TANK: Stage 3 Tank holds centrifuged 1µ-filtered WVO ready to cleanly fuel pickup truck! [mounted parallel to cab butting up against cab underneath rear window of pickup truck]
GAUGE 1µ clean tank level [mounted in cab?]

CREDITS:
STAGE ONE is inspired by Charles Anderson's (Golden Fuel Systems) mobile One Shot Filtration Unit
http://www.goldenfuelsystems.com
STAGE TWO stainless steel hot water heater small centrifuge design is inspired by SunWizard's http://www.burnveg.com/centrifuge-2.htm & Dieselcraft centrifuge works great -My filter and dewater rig: http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/ ... 2001011761 (Sept. 25, 2006)
STAGE TWO & THREE are inspired by puresoul108's My veggie van - Onboard WVO filtration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqYO0j9UH7U (Apr 19, 2014)
MOBILE SOLAR POWER: Chris & Cherie's Zephyr of Technomadia http://www.technomadia.com/solar/

Thank you everyone.
Please give feedback, suggestions, cunstructive criticism, etc... it's all welcome!
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Re: Charles Pure Soul, the Sun Wizard onboard WVO refinery

Postby SunWizard » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:19 am

Stage 3 is not needed since the CF already polishes the WVO to finer than 1 micron. The 30 micron filter is not needed since the CF can easily handle the output from the 600micron screen.

A 12V heater element is not going to be enough power to heat the WVO, a FPHE is best. You have too many amps of draw for even the largest alternator (80-100 amps just for circulating pump ), not including any other items like the usual engine loads. A 12V heater would add too many amps (80-100 amps more.) You cant load an an alternator to its full rating continously without burning it out.

If you plan to use it while not driving, then you will drain a typical large RV battery in < 30 minutes, just for the CF pump, and you have no engine heat for FPHE. So you would need 16 deep cycle batteries for the pump if you use the recommended 50% depth of discharge. Double that number if you use 12V heat.

A P trap is not good since you want any vapor produced in the CF to be vented to the outside, not condensed back into the clean oil.
YVORMV - Your veg. oil results may vary.
95 Dodge Cummins 4x4 SVO WVO conversion.
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Re: Charles Pure Soul, the Sun Wizard onboard WVO refinery

Postby Loxley » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:55 am

SunWizard wrote:Stage 3 is not needed since the CF already polishes the WVO to finer than 1 micron.

...finer than 1 micron in a single pass?

SunWizard wrote:The 30 micron filter is not needed since the CF can easily handle the output from the 600micron screen.

I can see that.
My thinking was keeping the "dirty" tank somewhat clean.
What's best practice micron rating for pre-screen suction out of a "typical" WVO dumpster?

SunWizard wrote:If you plan to use it while not driving, then you will drain a typical large RV battery in < 30 minutes, just for the CF pump

How many amps does a Oberdorfer N991-32 12VDC pump draw?

SunWizard wrote:A P trap is not good since you want any vapor produced in the CF to be vented to the outside, not condensed back into the clean oil.

Awesome, thanks. I'm thinking of other ideas now.
I appreciate you input SunWizard. :)
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Re: Charles Pure Soul, the Sun Wizard onboard WVO refinery

Postby SunWizard » Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:37 am

Loxley wrote:
SunWizard wrote:Stage 3 is not needed since the CF already polishes the WVO to finer than 1 micron.

...finer than 1 micron in a single pass?

No, a single pass is not good enough. Benefits of the CF is that you dont have to buy, plumb, and frequently replace any filters, and it dewaters. Your design has lost those benefits, so the CF offers little benefit. Better to get a larger 1 micron filter thats easily changed, and no CF if you want single pass.

Loxley wrote:
SunWizard wrote:The 30 micron filter is not needed since the CF can easily handle the output from the 600micron screen.

I can see that.
My thinking was keeping the "dirty" tank somewhat clean.
What's best practice micron rating for pre-screen suction out of a "typical" WVO dumpster?

600 micron.
Loxley wrote:
SunWizard wrote:If you plan to use it while not driving, then you will drain a typical large RV battery in < 30 minutes, just for the CF pump

How many amps does a Oberdorfer N991-32 12VDC pump draw?

60-80 amps.
YVORMV - Your veg. oil results may vary.
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81 Mercedes 300D- stock and happy on V80/D20 blend.
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Re: Charles Pure Soul, the Sun Wizard onboard WVO refinery

Postby Loxley » Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:41 pm

SunWizard wrote:Benefits of the CF is that you dont have to buy, plumb, and frequently replace any filters, and it dewaters. Your design has lost those benefits, so the CF offers little benefit.

The other reason for the 30 micron pre-filter is to protect the suction pump from too much dumpster gunk.
What's the best practice for WVO dumpster suction before running a centrifuge?
Thanks, I'm still relatively new to this.
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Re: Charles Pure Soul, the Sun Wizard onboard WVO refinery

Postby SunWizard » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:37 pm

I use a semi-trash pump, so a 600 micron is more than fine enough. If your pump cant handle 600 micron chunks, get a better pump since a finer screen will clog too often and be a pain to collect a 55 gallon barrel.

No filters at any point are needed with my CF since it cleans finer than 1 micron. And my trucks filter lasts 80,000 miles. See my thread here in this section for full details of how its built and operated.
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Re: Charles Pure Soul, the Sun Wizard onboard WVO refinery

Postby Loxley » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:28 pm

SunWizard wrote:I use a semi-trash pump...

How many decibels does that emit?
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Re: Charles Pure Soul, the Sun Wizard onboard WVO refinery

Postby SunWizard » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:27 pm

They dont rate them for DB, but its very quiet since its a very small honda, and I run at low RPM:
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/ ... aQodIocN9A
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Re: Charles Pure Soul, the Sun Wizard onboard WVO refinery

Postby Loxley » Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:11 pm

SunWizard wrote:No, a single pass is not good enough. Benefits of the CF is that you dont have to buy, plumb, and frequently replace any filters, and it dewaters. Your design has lost those benefits, so the CF offers little benefit. Better to get a larger 1 micron filter thats easily changed, and no CF if you want single pass.

The main goal of the centrifuge in this configuration is to get the suspended/emulsified water out of the WVO. Its particulate cleaning is considered an added secondary benefit. The idea of using filters here is a necessary trade off in order to achieve the main goal: to be able to filter & dewater in a single pass off-grid in a pickup truck bed with 12 volts.

SunWizard wrote:And my trucks filter lasts 80,000 miles.

I've read that fuel filters have a temporal lifespan. The filter elements do deteriorate with time (a process likely sped up by adding coolant heat), and they should be replaced usually every year or two, regardless if they are not dirty.
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Re: Charles Pure Soul, the Sun Wizard onboard WVO refinery

Postby SunWizard » Sat Dec 31, 2016 4:58 pm

Loxley wrote:The main goal of the centrifuge in this configuration is to get the suspended/emulsified water out of the WVO. Its particulate cleaning is considered an added secondary benefit. The idea of using filters here is a necessary trade off in order to achieve the main goal: to be able to filter & dewater in a single pass off-grid in a pickup truck bed with 12 volts.

You have lost the main goal, this CF wont dewater single pass.
YVORMV - Your veg. oil results may vary.
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Re: Charles Pure Soul, the Sun Wizard onboard WVO refinery

Postby Loxley » Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:23 pm

SunWizard wrote:
Loxley wrote:The main goal of the centrifuge in this configuration is to get the suspended/emulsified water out of the WVO. Its particulate cleaning is considered an added secondary benefit. The idea of using filters here is a necessary trade off in order to achieve the main goal: to be able to filter & dewater in a single pass off-grid in a pickup truck bed with 12 volts.

You have lost the main goal, this CF wont dewater single pass.

How many passes does the Dieselcraft require?

Will a gravity-fed bowl-style 'fuge dewater in a single pass?
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