Tank baffles? 32 gallon fuel cell for $150

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Tank baffles? 32 gallon fuel cell for $150

Postby mortarsprayer » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:27 am

Hello Everyone,
I found a nice tank that will snugly fit into the tool box with room left over for filters and tools.
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetai ... toview=sku


What have you seen or done for baffles around your pick up tube in the tank?
Can anyone point me towards pictures on the net of baffles and a tank heater together?

Thank you,
Nolan
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Postby coachgeo » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:47 pm

I've heard Wiffle Balls can make good baffles. Hard to install a baffel after tank contstruction. But if you got a big enough mouth on the tank... pop in some Wiffle balls.

You might want to buy two from where you will get your supply and put one in a jar of diesel and other in a Jar of WVO to see how that companies plastic deals with it. Heat it up too.
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Postby mortarsprayer » Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:26 pm

Thanks Coach.
I was thinking of a more conventional approach. Perhaps with trap doors or a cleverly folded part. The trap doors could be similar to the racing oil pans we used to make for Datsuns. They consisted of a diamond shaped box about 4" square with slots cut into the sides. Over the slots was a hinged piece of light weight metal that would let fluid in while cornering but not out.

I am hoping to find an example with other vegi users that includes a heated coil. There must be a good picture or example out there somewhere. Have you seen any heated loops that include a trap or baffels for fuel?

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Postby coachgeo » Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:06 am

mortarsprayer wrote:... similar to the racing oil pans we used to make for Datsuns. ...
Good to have another Datsun head in the WVO world. Spent many years in that world. Roadsters mostly.
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Postby mortarsprayer » Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:11 am

No Kidding!
Small world. I started with a stroker roadster from Vern Colvin. He was my girlfriend's dad. If you have the 'How To Hotrod Your Datsun' book, it is his dyno in the one of the cover pictures. I still have the car in storage and have had a few 510's along the way. I have though about digging it out but have too many other projects tugging on me. I do still miss the 3' ball of flames that would shoot from the side exhaust when I closed throttle. The 50mm solex side drafts made an intoxicating scream.

Obligatory WVO content:
I'm still searching for a good sump solution. I have found that fuel safe uses a simple plastic box with trap doors:
See page 31
http://www.fuelsafe.com/pdf/fuelsafe.pdf

And this company has a well thought out stamped inlet baffle:
http://www.metalflow.com/fuel.php

But I haven't found a good picture that includes a heat tube loop for WVO.

Take care,
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Postby Radrick » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:58 pm

Allot of stock car guys us perforated drain tile. They just shove it into the tank until the tank is full.
1995 Chevy K1500 6.5 TD not on WVO yet but soon.
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Postby coachgeo » Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:25 pm

Radrick wrote:... perforated drain tile. ...
Explain this please or maybe a link to such product?

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Postby Burbarian » Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:08 am

Semi-rigid perforated plastic sheet layers used in foundation and gravel trough drainage. Acts as a rough filter to prevent silt and fine clays from clogging drainage routes. Comes in rolls or sheets. Available at Home Depot or Lowes.
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Postby coachgeo » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:17 am

This stuff?

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from: Lowes
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Postby Burbarian » Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:25 pm

That's too thick and rigid. You'd want the lighter kind sold in rolls or sheets which are easier to stuff into a tank. Somewhat closer to plastic fence material. Don't use too-light geofabric or drain-sleeve material as they're basically polyester cloth and will soak up and hold a great deal of fuel. This will provide lots of unwanted surface area to expose to air which will accelerate poly, and also drastically slows down fuel flow across the tank. Might cause intermittent fuel starvation issues.
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baffled pickup

Postby gary » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:54 am

Talk to dave at fff...they make a nice baffled pickup custom for your tank.
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Postby mortarsprayer » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:00 am

Thank you Gary.
I am not passing the abbreviation test. Who is fff? French fried Fuel?

:)

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Postby mortarsprayer » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:06 am

Hello Gary.
I found Fossil Free Fuels and a video of them on You Tube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sQwccnH3KM

Thanks for the pointer.
Nolan
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Postby Burbarian » Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:53 pm

Just met up with a fellow greaser, and he had a tank full of these things:

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Perforated golf balls

He got them here:
http://www.sportsunlimitedinc.com/wilpracgolba.html
For $0.99 per 6-pack.

Says they work very well, and are an easy retrofit for non-baffled tanks with only small openings.

I'd be a bit worried about the small amount of oil retained in each golf ball as the tank slowly empties. You'd have quite a lot of tiny little puddles of oil exposed to the air. This would almost certainly accelerate oxidation and polymerization unless he keeps his tank topped up.
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