where to find winterized diesel in California?

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where to find winterized diesel in California?

Postby 3lr » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:55 am

where would I find winterized diesel in California?

I understand the winter diesel in warmer climates is augmented
with a certain amount of cerosene for thinning - without it actually
becoming #1 diesel. Where in California can one find such blends?
and how do you go about confirming that it really is thinner?

ty,
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Postby SunWizard » Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:25 am

You can find it anyplace where it is cold <20F. Up in the mountains. A viscosity guage like the one I use in this thread is the only good way to tell:
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Re: where to find winterized diesel in California?

Postby hheynow » Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:30 pm

3lr wrote:where would I find winterized diesel in California?



Well in the SF Bay Area you can get on-road kerosene at certain Rotten Robbie locations but be prepared for pump sticker shock. It's $4.99 a gallon and the price of a barrel of oil is at a four year low. I asked the manager why it was priced so high and her reply was that no refineries in California were producing it and it was driven down from Oregon. Sounds like a pile of BS because there are refineries in the SF bay area and isn't kerosene a fractional distillate of the refining process? Well I still bought some but I still smell a rat. :x
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It's $4.99 a gallon

Postby 3lr » Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:09 am

that is exactly the point avoiding the high price of cerosene by taking advantage of thinner winter blends. i live at 2500' in central CA, but have no way of telling if an thinner blend is actually deliverd here.
the clerk has no clue.

yeah amazing isn't it. #2 PD from $5.40 to $2.40 (locally) in a matter of 6 mos. miraculous the way the big 3, big oil, and the feds can feud one moment and become greatest allies when convenient!
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Re: where to find winterized diesel in California?

Postby SunWizard » Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:58 am

hheynow wrote:isn't kerosene a fractional distillate of the refining process?

Yes its the cut between diesel and gas. But if there is little demand for it there, then that would explain higher prices. Here you can get kero for a lower price than D2 (no road tax, and its dyed red to show that just like off-road D2.)
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Re: where to find winterized diesel in California?

Postby mixelpix » Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:37 am

3lr wrote:where would I find winterized diesel in California?


Hi John,

Whether you are buying gas from 7-11 or Chevron or any local reseller, just call up the resellers and ask them about the seasonal constituent blends and when they implement them. The folks at the register generally have no idea, but there is someone filing paperwork every step of the ASTM ways in which liquid fuel is disseminated.

I really like the folks at Yokayo BioFuels in Ukiah for biodiesel and I buy 250+ gal totes of the fossil stuff from Redwood Petroleum. Real nice folks at either shop. More'n happy to asnwer technical questions from their customers.

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