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Alternative fuel people are all crazy

Postby djenkins6 » Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:48 am

I know this is hydrogen (he probably has an HHO generator) not Veg but I'm putting a sticker on the back of my car and truck after reading this so that people will know that I and my vehicles are harmless :)

"Student Is Charged After Van With Alternative-Fuel System Causes Evacuation

The Toronto police have filed three charges, including mischief and possession of an explosive, against a Centennial College student who parked a van stuffed with pipes and wires near a propane depot while in class nearby, according to the CBC News. The badly parked vehicle drew the police's attention and led to a five-hour evacuation of more than a square mile. The van was towed away for further checks by the bomb squad. When the student returned to find his van missing, he called the police to report it stolen, saying it had an alternative-fuel system."


Student's vehicle rigged to run on hydrogen sparked Scarborough scare when parked near propane tank
Sep 16, 2009 04:30 AM

Shaun Morris may not have made the smartest or safest decision when he rigged his red Astro van to run on hydrogen – but a Crown attorney says it wasn't illegal.

After spending the night in custody, the 27-year-old was released without charges yesterday afternoon and taken to a nearby hospital for a mental assessment.

His alternative fuel experiment led to a massive evacuation in northeast Scarborough Monday afternoon. Thousands of people across a 1.6-kilometre radius were urged to leave their homes and businesses after officers went door to door. It all began around 1 o'clock that afternoon, when Morris, a student at Centennial College, realized his van had been towed.

Morris immediately contacted police, knowing the hydrogen was dangerous. The Chevrolet Astro had been taken to Williams Towing on Markham Rd. That's where police discovered the polyvinyl chloride tube outfitted with wires containing "a clear liquid," which was later identified as hydrogen.

"Basically, it looked just like a pipe bomb," said an officer familiar with the case. The situation intensified when investigators realized the van was parked near a propane tank, sparking the mass evacuation.

Morris was booked on charges of possession of an explosive device, breach of probation and mischief, but was never formally charged. After consulting with a Crown attorney, detectives conceded that while he may have been in possession of potentially explosive material, he had no intention of harming anyone. He was remanded in custody under the Mental Health Act.

So just how dangerous is a fuel tank filled with liquid hydrogen? Experts say that depends on how it is handled. But before answering that question, they contended the tank could not have contained liquid hydrogen.

"You need superb expertise and a huge laboratory to convert hydrogen into liquid," said Olev Trass, professor emeritus of chemical engineering at the University of Toronto. But Trass says it could have been a small percentage of hydrogen dissolved into another liquid. "That's the only possibility. There is no way it could have been all liquid hydrogen."

Injecting minuscule amounts of hydrogen into a car engine can save gas and check emissions, but very few people do it, said Jerry Compierchio of Master Mechanic Rexdale. "He was probably carrying a small cylinder of compressed hydrogen. Very few people do it because it's very dangerous – hydrogen is one of the most inflammable liquids."

Compierchio, a car mechanic for 16 years, said he has never heard of a homemade hydrogen tank. "If he made it himself, I wouldn't go near it. It's not something you want to fool around with."

Several major automakers are developing hydrogen-powered cars. The most common technology involves oxygen being pumped into a cell where it reacts with hydrogen, creating the car-propelling electricity, plus water.

Refuting earlier reports that the pipe-shaped object in the red van was a school project, Rosanna Cavallaro, a spokesperson for Centennial College, said Morris had been a student for just eight days.

"We are not exactly sure but it was nothing relating to the college at all. It was his personal car and he was using some kind of alternative fuel."

Earlier this summer, Morris was charged with mischief after pulling a fire alarm.
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