Homebrew capacitive water in oil % saturated meter testing

Collecting, filtering and dewatering of WVO SVO vegetable oil. For Biodiesel producers too.

Moderators: SunWizard, coachgeo

Re: Homebrew capacitive water in oil % saturated meter testi

Postby SunWizard » Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:09 am

sooty wrote:Sunwiz,
I have calibrated my cap meter to dry and 2000ppm 0% FFA oil and made my graph to determine 0% intercept. Mine is 304.7 @ 68 (I calculated this from the formula because tests were done at a lower temp)
Do I still need separate graphs for increasing % of FFAs?

Yes if you want a PPM number. But I have found PPM is not as useful as % saturation since PPM varies hugely depending on the FFA, see the chart on post#1. And % saturation easier to measure and compare between varied batches (then FFA doesn't matter.) I set a goal to get the % saturation below 60%.
Have you heard from others if their chips follow similar slope increases as yours did for increasing FFA's?

No.
YVORMV - Your veg. oil results may vary.
95 Dodge Cummins 4x4 +87 300TD SVO WVO conversion.
81 Mercedes 300D- stock and happy on V80/D20 blend.
Low fossil house- 100% solar/wind power, 90% solar heated.
SunWizard
Site Admin
 
Posts: 1471
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:53 pm
Location: N. Colorado

Re: Homebrew capacitive water in oil % saturated meter testi

Postby sooty » Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:31 am

I will start documenting % saturation from collection, settling, drying, pretreatment with glycerin to biodiesel and its final polishing. This makes it very easy. Thanks again. Jim aka. sooty
sooty
 
Posts: 2
Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:07 pm
Location: saint paul, minnesota usa

Re: Homebrew capacitive water in oil % saturated meter testi

Postby Burbarian » Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:22 pm

Back on the air.

Been catching up on a few years absence from the forum. Interesting stuff!

Haven't seen it, but if it's already been mentioned, I apologize for the repeat. A modest suggestion:

Use the capacitive sensor as one leg of an r/c in a 555 timer set up as a tone generator. The output frequency will shift depending on the water saturation level. Use a frequency counter to determine the frequency value between 0% and 100% saturation. Capture the output in a counter and subtract the base value. Divide by 100 to get percentage. You can use the output to drive a BCD to 7-seg display, or a simple LED bar. Old school CMOS discrete logic chips. You could also do the above in software with an ATMEL or even a PIC micro. A few dollars in parts from mail order electronics supply stores. Wired together and encased in epoxy, it could be the size of a match box. I'd hazard <$100 in parts, including the sensor. Might be a business opportunity here.
1987 GMC Suburban 6.2L V8 IDI
1985 Merc 300TD
1968 CAT D4D 3304 dozer
1971 Waldon 4100 loader
1981 IHI 30F excavator
1995 Changfa 195 w/ ST 10kw genset
Burbarian
 
Posts: 195
Joined: Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:14 pm
Location: Vermont

Previous

Return to Vegetable oil Collecting, Filtering and Dewatering

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests